Toughen Up Cops

Because somoebody has to say it: Toughen up local police! I know the loss of a friend or family is tough, believe me I do, but we all have to deal with it at various points in our lives. This morning I hear on news channel 13 that police will be attending seminars on how to better deal with the loss of a fellow officer, in the wake of Deputy Matthew Long’s terrible motorcycle accident. After a dizzying year of record body counts among citizens and a January that has cut our life expectances on the average down substantially, this just seems out of place to me. Nobody is holding state sponsored seminars for the countless civilian families left behind to pick up the pieces that criminals have shattered. And cops, you are the defense againist this, you are supposed to be tough hombres who value civie’s lives and are sworn to protect them. When you take the comments and actions of police as a whole over the last year I get the impression that you feel every civilian death is all par for the course in a growing city, but when an officer dies, even when it’s because they stepped in front of a moving vehicle intentionally, it’s all tears and seminars. Yeah, I know that’s likely not the intention, but that is EXACTLY how it appears to us, AND more importantly the criminals this emboldens.

There are people out there, lots of them, in this former peaceful town who have no problem murdering any of us, cops, civilians, dogs, whatever. You have chosen to be that line of defense and we are greatful. So start taking seminars on cracking criminal skulls and pound that concrete, and toughen up man!

Yeah… I am so getting a ticket now.

16 Comments so far

  1. S. Mullis (unregistered) on January 23rd, 2007 @ 10:12 am

    I second that.

    It does sort of send a message that our cops are soft and can’t handle when a comrade falls in the line of duty, and a secondary message that they hold those lives above the lives of the citizens they are sworn to protect.

    And I implore anyone to please organize a Skull-Crackin’ 101 seminar, perhaps with guest speakers Mr.T, Chuck Lydell and The Rock.


  2. JC (unregistered) on January 27th, 2007 @ 1:22 am

    You guys are dicks.


  3. Terry Howard (unregistered) on January 28th, 2007 @ 12:12 pm

    We’re concerned citizens who want the increasing violent criminal element in this city to be turned back. I want my family to not live in fear of their life and have confidence that those charged with making the streets safe understand and meet the challenge of the enemies of peaceful society. If that makes me a dick, JC, then yeah, I’m a dick and proud of it. So what does that make you?


  4. SunFlower (unregistered) on January 29th, 2007 @ 8:58 am

    I can understand why they need these seminars. As civilains we don’t see the countless acts of murder, and theft and babies being molested, old people being beaten and so forth. We hear about them on the news but we are not there smelling the stench, or holding the lifeless body of a baby that could have had a good life if it weren’t for Trash out there. All that takes a toll on people. They get close to their co workers because they depend on them for so much more than just work. These people understand how they feel and what they have seen. They are humans just like we are and sometimes they need coaching or counseling. The officer that died was my best friend and worked with my husband. That whole tough guy nothing bothers me personia is not the way they live their whole lives. They have feelings, they cry and they mourn, they fall in love and get scared. People “civilians” need to give them a break!


  5. Dee (unregistered) on January 31st, 2007 @ 2:47 pm

    I agree, police officers do see the worst of society, but they aren’t the only ones “smelling the stench” of crimal activity. The victims and families of victims not only smell the stench of crime, but further feel the pain of crimes not solved and a justice system that is ineffective and often unjust.

    We are in a terrible state of affairs where the criminals certainly have the upper hand and our local police administration either gruffs about it on the television and blames everyone but himself for the problem (Berry) or denies that a problem actually exists(McCoy). It doesn’t bode well for the civilian population.

    While I totally respect the officer on the street having a difficult job, the increase in serious crime says that SOMETHING has to be done differently and possibly that means classes in “Skullcracking 101” along with the Diversity, Sensitivity and Grief counseling.


  6. hdfiasdhfuisdahfuoisdahfuidshafiasd (unregistered) on February 4th, 2007 @ 10:51 pm

    The Police here are a joke. I was carded tonight for cigarettes (36) because the clerk says that they have been raided by undercover cops over and over. They’re too busy concerned with these things or underage drinking at college football games by IDIOT UNDERCOVER COPS or pulling people over going to work and IDIOT COPS jumping out in front of people going 5 miles over the speed limit. They know those are the people that can pay the fines and not the illegals doing the violent home invasions. I’m sure people are specifically moving to this area because they know nothing will happen to them if they commit violent crimes.
    I’m sure I’ll get detractors (the 6 people that read this blog) speaking the truth because a lot of people here wish the truth to be swept under the rug. Thank GOD for the Angels making their presence here to do the job the police and Sheriff Berry REFUSE to do. Any others that agree with me please chime in. We need to take our city back because these bumbling Keystone Cops are more concerned with money from speed quotas and ruining the lives of ordinary citizens.


  7. SunFlower (unregistered) on February 6th, 2007 @ 10:26 am

    OMG! It’s you and your “ANGELS” that are the jokes! Some people think they are so much better than everyone else and they can do everything better than anyone else, when in fact they screw it up so royally that the officers out there are running double time trying to fix it. That’s why they can’t be where they are truly needed! And you know what? Why don’t you join the force and make a difference in law enforcement. Oh no wait that won’t work because cowards like to hide behind their gangs and do more damage that good. Unless you can solve the problems instead of making them worse, just shut up stupid. Believe your “ANGELS” are not the solution! They and their attitudes are 9/10ths the problem….


  8. Terry Howard (unregistered) on February 6th, 2007 @ 10:47 am

    I want to make it clear that the “hdfiasdhfuis…” commenter does not represent the point I was making. My issue is with the leadership and the impression they are giving off. The recent officer deaths are tragic to say the least and the job these guys put in on the streets is quality work and much appreciated. I’m sure that half the time they are hamstrung with what they can do to fight crime and it’s not their fault if leadership stations them on radar gun duty instead of something more important. I’m pretty sure an officer rather be making a difference than handing out tickets. In my original post I made a point of thanking the police for taking on the dangerous and tough job and how tragic the loss is when one falls in the process of performing their duty.

    I also think that the Angels are far from being 9/10’s of the problem. That’s ridiculous. The police often call out for more civilian help, neighborhood watch, reporting crimes as they happen. This is what the Angles are doing, monitoring areas and coordinating with police. I have yet to hear of a single issue of them causing a problem or interfering with police work. They are informed on the laws and the operate within them. As long as they do that then more power to them, cleaning up crime is a job we all need to work together to do.

    As to people who don’t go into police work as being cowards… well, you are driving my point home about the attitude civilians are getting the impression of. We can’t ALL be police, that’s just not practical for a functioning society, now is it? That’s silly. But I will tell you something, it is our right and responsibility to be concerned and voice our opinions on the safety of our community and to call to task those whose job is to protect it. I will tell you right now I find the position that civilians should just shut up because they don’t put on a uniform reprehensible, and you will get no where putting forth that position. It’s just wrong on so many levels it’s not even funny. We are a community and a democracy for the people by the people. We all have our say and it is paramount that those in authority listen and heed the concerns of the people, no matter if they wear a badge, wear a paper hat or carry a briefcase. We are all important and as such, so is our opinion on things that affect our lives and community.


  9. SunFlower (unregistered) on February 6th, 2007 @ 11:20 am

    No , shutting up and not being concerned for public safety was not my point. It’s the point that people think they are so much better than the law and they could do a far better job than law enforcement. That’s what I get tired of hearing. People who complain and brag about being superior and they are the same people that are causing most the problems out their!


  10. Terry Howard (unregistered) on February 6th, 2007 @ 11:39 am

    Hmmm, well, I think one of the recent comment makers could fit in that category, but I do still think the statement that people complaining, even if unfounded and abrasive, are the people causing the problems out there is patently flawed and not constructive. Bottom line is the people causing the problems are the increasing amounts of criminals with a total disregard for human life, killing the victim has become the status quo for any robbery now. Whether or not you agree with people’s opinions on how to combat that and the tones they take to express it should not distract you from that. They are and always will be the overwhelming bulk of the problem.


  11. SunFlower (unregistered) on February 6th, 2007 @ 1:36 pm

    So then people out their that think they are the ultimate crime stoppers should join the law enforcement team and help break that crime down the right way. Not by putting themselves in a position where they and other people can get hurt and causing more work for the over work officers to begin with. True not everyone can join but at leat have enough common sense to let the officers do their jobs and don’t get in the way and do the little things you can do to help in the public safety. Not skull crushing and taking it upon yourself to do the officers jobs.


  12. Terry Howard (unregistered) on February 6th, 2007 @ 3:35 pm

    But who is doing this? I guess that’s were I am getting confused. I have not heard one word from the police or the news that there are any “ultimate crime stoppers” out there interfering with the police. The most recent news I have seen of the Angels is them going to OPD HQ to meet with the police chief to share information and ensure they are making their efforts helpful and not a hindrance. The police department seemed to be making the statement that they are not at all displeased with the manner in which they have conducted themselves thus far. Unless you know of a local spiderman or batman we are unaware of I’m not sure what you are referring to.

    In any case, how does what they are doing differ from a neighborhood watch, which is something the police encourage? All they are doing is recording information and observation on where crime is happening and passing that to the police. In the process that are making it known that activity witnessed will become police knowledge as illustrated by their public profile (hence the berets and jackets and press releases.) They are trained and armed with non lethal weapons (mace, etc…) so that in the event they are on hand when someone is attacked they can lend assistance but they are not knocking down doors or interrogating people randomly. I have heard not a single report of a physical confrontation or incident of harassment in Orlando by the Guardian Angels.

    If their presence is helpful and brings attention to something that we all agree needs attention, the shocking rising rate of violent crimes, and provides a richer depth of information than the police alone can provide and they coordinate with local police (all of which has to date been the case,) then why would you have issue with what they are doing? Are citizens not to report crime to police as they observe it?


  13. SunFlower (unregistered) on February 7th, 2007 @ 10:28 am

    First of all… Do you expect the news to broadcast the Angels are helping the police? Noooo. So where are you getting these reports. Most everyone I know is in law enforcement from Orange County to St Johns County. I hear that people who think they can do stake outs and sh** like that are the problems. I hear their are people like that in the Angels. From the officers I have heard it from it gets to be a real hassel sometimes, but just like with you, it could be hear say. My point is their are things cilvians can do to help law enforcement but being a Barney Fife isn’t one of them.


  14. Terry Howard (unregistered) on February 7th, 2007 @ 11:01 am

    “A police spokesperson says they are happy the Guardian Angels are setting up a chapter in Orlando.”

    “Guardian Angels To Report Crime Not Intervene”

    “…patrolled Orlando’s streets last month, armed only with cell phones to report crimes to police”

    “Orlando police Chief Mike McCoy has welcomed the Guardian Angels”

    More…

    That’s 4 major local news sources from print to television that back up my point, that the Guardian Angels intend to provide information, not supplant police authority, and that the police themselves are so far pleased with their contributions.

    If what you say is true, that all the people you know in law enforcement think that private citizens providing information to police about where crimes are being committed are “the problems”, then, wow, I think we may have pinpointed a true problem indeed. Thank you for shedding light onto a factor in why current methodology and mindset of those charged with protecting the public is not effective in combatting crime. However, I’m not going to make that assumption until you provide your supporting evidence as I did. That would not be fair to the police.


  15. Jana (unregistered) on February 8th, 2007 @ 1:57 pm

    As a daughter to a Sheriff’s deputy in Fl, a cousin to the Deputy of the year in Fl, separated by blood sister to the late Matt Long and girl friend to a Sheriff’s detective in Boone, NC I feel compelled to share my two cents…

    wow… toughen up cops… Day in and out they deal with the crap that no one wants to be responsible for and when they allow for one moment of weakness you want to jump on them? Law enforcement is like family, you must trust your fellow officers with your life which calls for comradery, compassion, care and concern… and you wish for them to disregard all of that with a blink of an eye… I’m sorry but that cannot happen. With all the horrible things law enforment officers encounter there has to be a breaking point… they are not perfect (nor heartless) and to lose one of thier own is a breaking point, and in order to do thier jobs effiently they need to be healed.

    Please, let us do all that we can to make thier lives and jobs easier… just be an upstanding citizen, help out when you can and pray for those who protect us!


  16. Terry Howard (unregistered) on February 8th, 2007 @ 3:39 pm

    Once again, another person doesn’t read beyond the headlines. Typical of a lot of things these days… sigh. Summary for those who aren’t paying attention: I appreciate police, I was saddened by Long’s death, I think it is not the proper message to send to criminals that the police only seem to talk and have seminars. My issue is with your leaders and their PR dept’s inability to A) inform the public what they are doing to FIGHT crime, and B) scare the hell out of criminals that they are cracking down. That’s it, nothing else. Please read beyond the headlines, for god’s sake.



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